@TwoClownsEating@beige.party being intentionally ableist and defending his ableism; CW: long (over 5,000 characters), quote-post, explicit language, Fediverse meta, alt-text meta, ableism meta
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I'm usually friendly. But challenge me, and I'll fight. If you fight dirty, then so will I.
And this time I'll fight for accessibility. Against someone who is
actively fighting against accessibility and intentionally acting in most ableist ways.In the below post, @
Mat B explains that he adds content into his alt-texts that isn't available anywhere else in the post.
I tell people I use AltText on my posts to aid visually impaired folks, as well as wider accessibility generally, and even to explain the meaning of the post in case it's not clear to everyone.
The truth is I do it because it allows me to be long winded and verbose twice in a post. Double bubble. Two for the price of one. Bonus blathering.
#AltText Don't deprive folks of your verbal diarrhoea!
You may or may not know, but this is actually
ableist behaviour because it discriminates against those who cannot access alt-text, for example, people who don't have at least one working hand.
I have explained it in the wiki about alt-texts and image descriptions that I'm working on. For Mastodon users' convenience, here are the links as URLs in plain sight:
https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/wiki/jupiter_rowland/How(20)to(20)describe(20)images(20)in(20)the(20)Fediverse/Don(27)t(20)explain(20)things(20)or(20)give(20)other(20)information(20)only(20)in(20)alt-text(21)https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/wiki/jupiter_rowland/How(20)to(20)describe(20)images(20)in(20)the(20)Fediverse/Don(27)t(20)use(20)alt-text(20)to(20)write(20)around(20)your(20)character(20)limit(21)https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/wiki/jupiter_rowland/How(20)to(20)describe(20)images(20)in(20)the(20)Fediverse/Can(20)everyone(20)access(20)alt-text(3f)See also this post, https://www.kwbell.eu/mastonotes/alt-text-for-mastodon-images/, by @KB.So I did what I feel is my duty. I told him how and why this is wrong. Thousands upon thousands of Mastodon users see it as absolutely justified to tell everyone to write alt-text, so why shouldn't I tell people how to write
proper alt-text as opposed to misusing it?
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Mat B Alt-text must never include explanations or other additional information that is not available in the post text or the image!Why?
Because
not everyone can access alt-text. Sighted people need a mouse/trackball/touchpad/trackpoint to access alt-text or a touch screen if the UI allows for that.
And in order to operate that, they need at least one working hand. But not everyone has working hands. Just like not everyone has working eyes, which is why you describe your images in the first place, right?
For those who can't access alt-text, any information only available in alt-text and neither in the post text nor in the image itself is inaccessible and permanently lost. They can't open it, they can't read it. Ever.
This means:
Explanations and additional information must always go into the post itself where everyone can access them!Here are three relevant pages in my (very early WIP) wiki about image descriptions and alt-text:
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Mat B, however, did not accept that he has been wrong all the time. Instead, he chose to attack me to defend his utterly ableist ways.
@jupiter_rowland Thanks for your boilerplate, bullshit, word salad response you absolute fucking whopper.
Have a supposedly accessibility friendly, mega hashtag day, you tiresome, know nothing prick.
Obviously, he doesn't know whom he is picking on. I have been in the Fediverse under various guises for about five years longer than Mastodon has even been around. I have spent much more time on Fediverse server software that is vastly more powerful than Mastodon than he has spent on Mastodon.
Congrats, @
Mat B,
YOU ABSOLUTELY MOTHERFUCKING HORRID STEAMING FERMENTING PILE OF MISANTHROPIC AND ABLEIST SHIT. you left me no other option than to take the Teller-Ulam thermonuclear option.
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Mat B is an absolute disgrace to beige.party, a Mastodon server that I got to know as a lighthouse of inclusivity and accessibility. He is deliberately and intentionally breaking sever rule number 2, defending his misbehaviour and attacking those who try to educate him about how to
actually be inclusive and accessible.
In the name of beige.party and the entire Fediverse, I hereby demand he be permanently banned from beige.party, effective immediately.In addition,
I recommend everyone who treasures and fights for actual accessibility and full inclusivity to block @Mat B.#
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