Jupiter Rowland

Jupiter Rowland

jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu

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Fediverse-metaverse interconnection: Holo Neon grid will connect OpenSim to (streams)

Sun, 20 Aug 2023 09:43:18 +0200

Jupiter Rowland

jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu

@OpenSim

It's happening. Probably.

The #Fediverse and the #Metaverse will grow another bit closer again.

The #HoloNeon grid has announced that it will create an elaborate, bi-directional connection between the grid and its own (streams) instance. This will actually include the automatic creation of an #OpenSim avatar for each channel created.

I sincerely hope they'll #OpenSource that development.

Here's the official announcement:

Aeris Irides schrieb den folgenden Beitrag Sun, 20 Aug 2023 05:28:06 +0200

We will connect streams federated server to OpenSimulator federated metaverse server.

Objectives:

create account will happen on streams, account will be created on OpenSimulator server.
Sync passwords when updated on streams instance.
Photos marked full perm in OS will show up on streams feed
Profile photo changed in OS will appear on streams profile and vice-versa
Notifications (@metions, @replies, @privatemessage, etc) will popup in OS viewer.

A bit of explanation, especially for those of you who don't know the Fediverse beyond Mastodon and Lemmy:

#Streams is a code repository which contains a Fediverse server application created in 2022 that can be seen as a descendant of the #RedMatrix from 2012 and its successor #Hubzilla (see here) from 2015. While it doesn't have quite as many features as Hubzilla, it still goes well beyond what Mastodon has to offer and even surpasses Lemmy here and there. It offers #NomadicIdentity which is nothing new; the Red Matrix was created to introduce it, and Hubzilla has it, too.

Since this Fediverse server application is intentionally nameless and brandless, it is usually being referred to by the name of the repository in parentheses: (streams).

Before you ask: Yes, (streams) federates with Mastodon and Lemmy.

And now for those of you who have found this post elsewhere than on Lemmy:

#OpenSimulator, #OpenSim in short (see here), is basically #SecondLife in free, open-source, community-driven, decentralised and federated. So it's a platform for 3-D #VirtualWorlds.

Unlike so many others, it wasn't created recently to cash in on the metaverse hype. It has been around since 2007, it has been federated since 2008, and the OpenSim community has been using the term "metaverse" regularly since at least 2010, most likely even longer. It's also non-commercial at its core, and it probably offers the cheapest land of all virtual worlds.

Holo Neon is one of over 400 known active OpenSim grids (worlds), most of which, like Holo Neon, are connected to each other on the so-called #Hypergrid.

It's one of only very few which have a #cryptocurrency integrated, and the one that Holo Neon uses can't be traded for real money. Most grids don't have any currency at all; some use the grid-overarching Gloebit, some only have "monopoly money" that can't be traded with real money, and a very few commercial grids have their own currencies.

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Fri, 01 Sep 2023 11:54:12 +0200

Scott M. Stolz

scott@biztechtonics.net

That sounds neat.

Fri, 01 Sep 2023 13:13:53 +0200

Cyborg 2-A ✅

wago@libertious.com

There is work being done to integrate Avalanche blockchain whkch is based on ETH. In my opinion that will be too costly, i estimate it will cost (somebody, or several people, or all grid runners) a minimum of $5,000 USD a month to implement an Avalanche blockchain. Not 5k per person, and not 5k per grid. :)

There is a company implementimg avalanche (lamina1) which is founded/backed by the guy who originally coined the term "metaverse". They claim that it's an open network but in my opinion if you can't run a full node without permission then it is not an open network. They do allow developers to register for access and also sign up as an 'early access partner' . Their github has a fork of avalanche and not much dev if any. It looks like to me its a white paper.

But the bottom line is nobody in opensimulator is going to lay out $5'000 USD a month to run an ETH based blockchain. Maybe somebody can figure out how to split up the costs among users but AFAIK many OpenSim users don't want to pay any amount. Getting even $5 a month would be a stretch.

And then we have DECENTRALAND which is totally not decentralized. (Prove me wrong please show me the code) Their site reads that they are "the first and only decentralized open source metaverse that started in 2020" oh yeah that sounds legit right there.

So i created a token on Stellar and working on integrating it into OpenSim. It is available to trade on the exchanges, its a feature but not a design goal - just to say it is techically possible for people to trade fiat and other cryptocurrencies right now but its obviously worth zero dollars and zero cents. I like Stellar because it is so cheap and they have a robust network in place that supports Rust based contracts and NFTs. An OpenSim grid operator can spend like $1 USD to get started. And it IS open source. Anyone can run a full node, which costs about $300 a month or so, or a short node without history for cheaper. But you don't need to run a node to connect OpenSim grid.

So that's the current update.

Fri, 01 Sep 2023 14:43:59 +0200

Jupiter Rowland

jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu

@Cyborg 2-A ✅

And then we have DECENTRALAND which is totally not decentralized. (Prove me wrong please show me the code) Their site reads that they are "the first and only decentralized open source metaverse that started in 2020" oh yeah that sounds legit right there.