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2024-02-05 09:01:30

fabiscafe@mstdn.social

How would you feel about if "A.I." on the fediverse would
1. Tag posts
2. Tag pictures
3. Generate and translates descriptions?

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#AI #Fediverse #Hashtag #Accessibility

🗸 - Would be fine for accessibility reasons

15 Stimmen | 65%

🗙 - No way! AI should stay out!

8 Stimmen | 35%

23 Stimmen insgesamt
Umfrage ist beendet

2024-02-05 11:36:24

Jupiter Rowland

jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu

@Fabian :antifa: ?️‍? AI must never be mandatory, and AI must never be forced upon anyone or everyone.

For example, image descriptions. I write them myself. I write the longest, most extensive, most detailed image descriptions in the whole Fediverse because I'm largely free from Mastodon's restrictions. I spend hours researching for and describing and explaining one picture in tens of thousands of characters.

The full image description goes into the post itself, but I always have an additional actual alt-text with a short description which also mentions that there's a full description with lots of explanations in the post. I have to do this because I have to hide posts with image descriptions behind content warnings for being over 500 characters long.

Now imagine what'd happen if AI-generated image descriptions were forced upon everyone. The AI would first throw my own alt-text away. Result: Hardly anyone would even discover the actual image description because the alt-text would no longer explain where it is. Or that there is one in the first place.

Besides, the AI would write a completely mangled, non-sense description of an image which it fails to understand because the picture was not taken in the real world. The AI wouldn't even understand that the picture wasn't taken in the real world because it wouldn't expect that.

I wouldn't let my own hashtags be forcibly replaced by AI-generated hashtags. AI doesn't necessarily understand my posts, it doesn't have the competence in the super-niche fields I write about. How is an AI supposed to know what the Hypergrid International Expo is or what the Discovery Grid is? Worse yet: How is it supposed to tell from a picture which OpenSim grid name to hashtag?

Besides, I have my own way of using hashtags which is not rooted in Mastodon's culture. After all, I'm not on Mastodon. I'm on something that has existed since before there was Mastodon. It does things differently.

I always add hashtags with the purpose of triggering automated, reader-side content warning filters which are standard where I am, and which became available to Mastodon itself last year with the 4.0 release.

For example, if a post exceeds the 500-character mark like this one, I add the hashtags #Long, #LongPost, #CWLong and #CWLongPost. Or if I talk about something concerning the Fediverse which many people don't want to read about either, just like I'm doing here, I add the hashtags #FediMeta, #FediverseMeta, #CWFediMeta and #CWFediverseMeta.

Or if I ramble about image descriptions, and I'm pretty sure that many many Mastodon users don't want to read about that, I add the hashtags #AltText, #ImageDescription, #ImageDescriptions, #ImageDescriptionMeta and #CWImageDescriptionMeta.

You can easily make these trigger the automatic generation of a content warning just for you. Or you can have any and all posts with them deleted automatically. That's what they're there for.

But if some AI that's only built against Mastodon and Mastodon's culture comes and deletes them and replaces them with its own ones, it takes away this feature.

And don't get started about opt-out. You can add opt-outs for whatever you want on Mastodon. But I'm on Hubzilla. I can't opt into or out of anything that Mastodon and only Mastodon does.

#AI #Hashtag #Hashtags #HashtagMeta #CWHashtagMeta

2024-02-05 15:34:06

Fabian (Bocchi) 🏳️‍🌈

fabiscafe@mstdn.social

@jupiter_rowland at first, please let me say that such long posts are a pain to read and I usually don't read them because of this. :blobcatflop:

Back to topic: it's not to force it onto anyone. It is an additional feature if nothing is provided by a user themself. It won't replace anything.