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2024-01-30 14:09:35

jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu

Another poll: When is a long post content warning necessary?

Is it necessary? Is it non-sense? Or should posts longer than Mastodon toots be banned everywhere in the Fediverse?

Please boost for a larger sample size.

#Poll #LongPosts #LongToots #500Characters

Posts over 500 characters aren't possible anyway

0 Stimmen | 0%

Posts over 500 characters should be forbidden Fediverse-wide

1 Stimme | 5%

CW for over 500 characters

4 Stimmen | 21%

Different limit (please specify in a reply)

0 Stimmen | 0%

Mastodon user: Long post CW is non-sense

9 Stimmen | 47%

Non-Mastodon user: Long post CW is non-sense

5 Stimmen | 26%

19 Stimmen insgesamt
Umfrage ist beendet

Fediverse

2024-01-30 15:27:53

volkris

volkris@qoto.org

@jupiter_rowland

My reasoning: character count isn’t about content but about form.

And practically, while your fediverse reading program might not be able to understand a post well enough to see what the content is about, and give you a warning, it can easily detect character count and do something you’d like if the count is too large.

If you want to skip all posts above 500 characters or whatever, it would be trivial to program a client to do that. It’s a UI issue.

2024-01-30 20:32:04

Scott M. Stolz

scott@loves.tech

I think that fediverse platforms need to separate the inbox from the outbox.

The outbox can require that you post a certain way. Mastodon can limit how many characters you post. PeerTube can require you to post a video. Pixelfed could require that your post an image. Et cetera.

The inbox, on the other hand, should not assume that incoming messages will conform to that platform's standards. The inbox basically becomes a fediverse reader (similar to an RSS reader, except it is social).

If more platforms adopt this concept, you can have the best of both worlds. Outgoing posts conform to a platform's standards, and incoming posts represent the diversity of the fediverse. And since longer posts can be detected by simply counting the number of characters, the inbox could even sort the incoming posts into different views or folders.

Something like that would preserve their desired interface (for example, short posts), while letting users view posts from other platforms in a more appropriate format (like longer posts, or videos, etc.).

2024-01-31 00:27:41

Cheryl Furse

CherylFurse@opensimsocial.com

@jupiter_rowland

I don't know what's the problem. I can write on Mastodon of Lonewolf 5000 characters and post videos. I have the impression as if I am the only one who reads Jupiter's long postings as novels.

But Fediverse is just one of many social websites I use. For real science and scientists to meet and serious rl I use Twitter.
To meet many from Secondlife and Opensim I use Facebook. To upload big size videos uncensored I use rumble.

For me the whole poll is nonsense. lol

Mastodon or not. Fediverse is a niche. After Elon Musk bought Twitter the memberships there doubled and traffic doubled.

Fediverse had just a short hype of some months. It is still a niche.

2024-01-31 02:19:25

Waitman Gobble

hello@rumbly.net

yeah it should be "content warning: this might be too much for you to comprehend, no lo-fi summary available."

2024-01-31 07:57:21

aRubes

aRubes@sloth.run

@jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu non mastodon here: above 1000, certainly not obligatory. If someone in a microblog structured network such as myself is sick of very long posts, they should mute/unfollow that account or ask that the microblog's software include a configurable threshold parameter, above which the post will be marked as one (not with a CW, which is about content, not length) and first appears collapsed/folded

2024-01-31 12:43:22

Thirza

Thirza@opensimsocial.com

@jupiter_rowland Learning to edit your thoughts to a reasonable/appealing length is a vital life skill.

2024-01-31 18:00:16

Scott M. Stolz

scott@loves.tech

In the end, people have a choice of who they follow and who they don't. And with the fediverse, they have a choice of platform. If someone does not want to see over 500 characters, then they should not follow people who post over 500 characters. And there is even a block function, if they don't want to see their comments either.

Ideally, instead of content warnings, Mastodon should just collapse long posts and add a "read more" option. I thought it already did that, but if it doesn't, that feature should be added.

If Mastodon collapses long posts and puts "read more" then there is no need for a content warning since "read more" IS the warning that this is a longer post.

So, in my opinion, content warnings are unnecessary for longer posts.

2024-01-31 18:56:37

Witcraft (Hubzilla)

witcraft@hub.hubzilla.de

Why program a collapse function to ignore a detectable form of content - if you can regulate just a few million fediverse users to manually mark every single standard conform post with a warning, instead...?

Mastodon logic is quite refreshing...

2024-02-02 11:13:02

Witcraft (Hubzilla)

witcraft@hub.hubzilla.de

:facepalm That explains a lot...
I already had realized that federation with d* was half sourcery, but appearently, it was more like working a miracle...

2024-02-05 14:55:07

Jupiter Rowland

jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu

Posts over 500 characters with a mandatory CW, without a CW or banned entirely in the Fediverse?

You've got until tomorrow to vote!

#Poll #LongPosts #LongToots #500Characters

2024-02-05 15:54:05

*_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

Different limit: no limit. And no CW dictatorship either. I like CW for summaries, though.