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2025-06-18 17:42:52

tchambers@indieweb.social

The Seven Deadly #UX Sins of the #Fediverse Web Experience (To Fix): https://www.timothychambers.net/2025/06/18/113327.html. cc: @mastodonmigration @laurenshof @fediversenews @cheeaun @rolle @scottjenson @zeldman @imanijoy

2025-06-19 12:55:00

The Void ザ・ヴォイド

TheVoidTLMB@social.vivaldi.net

@tchambers a) "Just you and The Void." Hey, I'm doing my best! b) Typo: "These fixed don’t require"--> fixe*S* c) Good ranting.

2025-06-19 16:04:18

Mike Fraser

mike@thecanadian.social

@tchambers @mastodonmigration @laurenshof @cheeaun @rolle @scottjenson @zeldman Mastodon was always sold to the end user as the community when its actually just the software that can run a community. The term join Mastodon is fundamentally flawed, it's like saying join the world wide web instead of saying go to my web site. The emphasis should be building great communities that just happen to interooerate with each other. That shift in perception addressees a few of the great sins (def not all)

2025-06-19 16:17:57

Tim Chambers

tchambers@indieweb.social

@mike @mastodonmigration @laurenshof @cheeaun @rolle @scottjenson @zeldman

Hmmmm. I think the Sins I list here are not as easily fixed as you suggest. And are fediverse wide (at least across many different fediverse offerings) -- will write up some fixes I do think will work in my next article.

2025-06-19 16:25:42

Mike Fraser

mike@thecanadian.social

@tchambers @mastodonmigration @laurenshof @cheeaun @rolle @scottjenson @zeldman Hence the qualifying sentence at the end. There's a lot of work to be done on the actual software but there's also a lot of work to be done on instances creating communities that can stand on their own two feet. Unfortunately that work goes beyond the nuts and bolts of software development.

2025-06-19 16:59:21

Scott Jenson

scottjenson@social.coop

@tchambers
I'm a little more hopeful, there are hard and easy problems on your list. All with fixes on our roadmap.

The "can't see all replies" is a deeply hard federation problem but we have an incoming fix for that!

On the other side, Improving DMs is something that requires no change to the API and can be easily done in the client. I'm working on that right now.

I see significant improvement in your "sins" over the next year.

2025-06-19 20:07:31

Tim Chambers

tchambers@indieweb.social

@scottjenson ✊ Thank you for all you are doing in this regard!

2025-06-19 20:08:30

Tim Chambers

tchambers@indieweb.social

@scottjenson One early spoiler from my next article as you are working on DM's now. Look at how http://phanpy.social does it. cc: @cheeaun

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2025-06-20 16:09:09

Jupiter Rowland

jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu

@Scott Jenson

The "can't see all replies" is a deeply hard federation problem but we have an incoming fix for that!

You mean the kind of "fix for that" that Friendica when it was launched into the Fediverse 15 years ago? Namely full awareness and support of threaded, one-post-many-comments conversations?

Or, better yet, Conversation Containers as created by Friendica's creator in his own streams repository, then inherited by his own Forte, then backported to his original creation Hubzilla as per FEP-171b?

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #Conversations #ThreadedConversations #FEP_171b #ConversationContainers

2025-06-19 16:20:45

ren (a they/them) 🎶🌈

renwillis@mstdn.social

@mike @tchambers @mastodonmigration @laurenshof @cheeaun @rolle @scottjenson @zeldman You may be too young to remember, but we absolutely had to “join” the World Wide Web! Your internet provider was capital D Decision at one point. Now it’s more like setting up your electric and water bill. lol.

2025-06-19 21:08:47

Osma A 🇫🇮🇺🇦

osma@mas.to

Great writeup of the Original Sins, Tim! And behind these ones on the list is a long list of the Thousand Papercuts, from misplacing mentions at start of the reply body text (when a perfectly good mention field exists in the protocol) to inability to remember the readers' position in their (reverse chron and random) timeline. The papercuts could be solved by the client, but increase friction all the same.
@tchambers

2025-09-26 21:56:37

RonSupportsYou

RonSupportsYou@mastodon.social

@tchambers Earlier today I was happy to see that you boosted something I posted about Jimmy Kimmel. I also copied @ (space added for this reply) renewedresistance and I was hoping that that account would also boost my message. What can you tell me about this?