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2024-09-21 13:06:25

everton137@social.vivaldi.net

You know what would be optimal in terms of an interoperable and decentralized web? That I could start following and interacting with a profile on a platform that uses a protocol different from Activity Pub.

In simple terms, I just want to follow some Brazilian tribes that went massively to Bluesky, and interact with them. Just click a like button, login with my Mastodon account and that's it.

I know there's a bridge possibility, but that's just a workaround. Would it be possible to have different protocols that communicate to each other? Maybe not at this stage, but could different protocols be adapted for that?

I just asked my partner to follow @ap.brid.gy on Bluesky more than 1,5 hour ago, but I still cannot see her profile here. I see my bridged profile even has a few followers on Bluesky, but only my original posts and posts from those who use this bridge are replicated there.

#Interoperability #decentralization #fediverse #BlueSky #Mastodon #atprotocol #activitypub

2024-09-21 15:27:35

Jupiter Rowland

jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu

@everton137 You mean two applications communicating with one another without any common language?

No chance. No way, no how.

Both sides always require one common language to communicate with each other.

Maybe not at this stage, but could different protocols be adapted for that?

That'd basically require at least one protocol to adopt another protocol wholly. Like, ActivityPub would have to include the AT protocol's whole set of communication standards and features.

But if ActivityPub has it, that doesn't mean Mastodon automatically has it, too. Mastodon would have to implement all this in addition to ActivityPub implementing it.

So. Ain't. Gonna. Happen.

Of all Fediverse projects, Mastodon has the worst track record of making itself compatible with anything that isn't Mastodon. It is largely developed like it was the whole Fediverse, without any regard for external compatibility.

And if Mastodon doesn't give a damn for being sufficiently compatible with other actual Fediverse projects and keeps introducing proprietary, non-ActivityPub-standard technology, why should it make itself compatible with something that doesn't have ActivityPub implemented in the first place and never will?

If you don't want bridges, the only solution is to use something that "speaks multiple languages" itself.

Step 1: Say goodbye to the comfort of fully featured phone apps. Embrace the Web interface.

Step 2: Get a Friendica account. Don't worry, it's in the Fediverse. It has been around for five and a half years longer than Mastodon, and it has been continuously fully connected to Mastodon since Mastodon's own launch. Friendica was created with the goal of connecting to everything out there and then some. Until recently, this included Twitter, for a short while in the early 2010s, this even included Facebook. And now this includes Bluesky.

Step 3: Friendica's Bluesky integration works the same as its Twitter and Facebook integrations. It isn't true federation, it's more of an integration of another communications system. So you need an account there. Which means that, yes, I can't help it, you'll need a Bluesky account.

Step 4: Integrate that Bluesky account into your Friendica account.

Result: You can use Friendica to follow just about everyone in the ActivityPub-based Fediverse and just about everyone on Bluesky, connected to the bridge or not, and without the hassle of bridging.

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Interoperability #Fediverse #Mastodon #Bluesky #Friendica