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2023-09-23 13:11:14

rikefranke@bagarrosphere.fr

I am on three social media platforms but it’s only here that people keep complaining about paywall articles (btw, I always post gift articles, but they can only be opened so many times). Why does Mastodon feel journalists don’t need to get paid?

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2023-09-23 13:53:34

Ulrike Franke

rikefranke@bagarrosphere.fr

Honestly, quite a few replies on this perfectly show why Mastodon is more annoying than the other places. If YOU don’t like something about how OTHER PEOPLE post, just don’t follow them?! Very moralising crowd out here.

2023-09-23 15:54:37

Maciej

roundcubicle@mastodon.online

@rikefranke So why are You here if everyone is so annoying? Just stay on Elmos X - I’m sure there is a nicer crowd there, right? Maybe you are more into bots, real hate and abuse than just the usual bunch complaining about Paywalls. Actually I found your responses rather aggressive, arrogant and overly opinionated. ? And with your ‘Gifted Articles’ you come across like a Marie Antoinette of Journalism. ‘Why don’t they love me? I’m giving them free stuff!’ ?

2023-09-23 16:22:29

Phillip of Mastodon

pgroce@mastodon.social

@rikefranke I normally try to avoid adding noise to the signal, but fwiw I really appreciate your posts, whether they have a paywalled link or not. You add in slug/pull quotes, so I get the idea even when I don’t click through.

Mastodon needs more voices like yours. Your insights considerably elevate the discourse here on technology, foreign policy, national security, and the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Thanks very much for doing that, in whatever way you choose.

2023-09-23 17:43:22

Max

maxbob@det.social

@rikefranke true, you can see a lot of “this should be made available for free, how dare you posting paywall content here?!” attitude here - guess it’s because the platform attracts many people that are used to working with open source software where the general expectation is that everything should be for free. Looks like that in the end it every social media platform has their own little kind of demon ?

2023-09-23 23:27:24

gpshewan@mastodon.social

@rikefranke What you post is valuable and appreciated Ulrike. A good reminder for those of us who got into the habit of ‘not feeding the algorithm’ by not commenting on other platforms - well, it’s good to remember to say “Thanks for that” on Mastodon.

May help balance the other crowd.

2023-09-24 10:43:58

Death by Lambda

xdydx@mastodon.social

@rikefranke
By the same logic, if I don't like the way you behave on the road, I shouldn't drive?
If I don't like the way you act in public transport, I should get off?
The statement, "If you don't like the way people post, don't follow them", is very conservative and sounds a lot like "If you don't like America, leave".

Asking people to improve their posting behaviour, be it, #altText, or not linking to paywalled articles, or pointing out #replyGuy behaviour is the social in #socialMedia.

2023-09-24 11:30:29

Jupiter Rowland

jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu

2023-09-24 19:31:00

Death by Lambda

xdydx@mastodon.social

@jupiter_rowland
You do you, but personally I'm in favour of longer posts, so I stopped reading after that strawman

You made at least three, but here's your #logicalFallacy
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

2023-09-24 19:48:49

Jupiter Rowland

jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu

@Death by Lambda

personally I'm in favour of longer posts

You may be. But some people are not.

https://scicomm.xyz/@benjaminbuse/110971743720108024

https://social.aaroncrocco.com/@Aaron/109651328220681467

Sure, some things are generally seen as good manners in the #Fediverse. But if you want to fully satisfy any individual and their wishes, you'll have to satisfy them all. Everything else would be discrimination.

2023-09-24 20:42:39

Death by Lambda

xdydx@mastodon.social

@jupiter_rowland
One #meme and one #falseEquivalence

You sure know how to pick them.

_if you want to fully satisfy any individual and their wishes, you'll have to satisfy them all._

Again with the strawman.. And that statement is logically false. To help you..

If you want to have one gunman, then everyone has to have a gun.
If you want everyone to have a heart transplant, then you'll have to give everyone a heart transplant.

_Everything else would be discrimination_
#bullshit

2023-09-24 20:42:48

Death by Lambda

xdydx@mastodon.social

@jupiter_rowland

I think we are done here. Have a great day!

2023-09-25 05:01:09

abolitionniste ??

abolitionniste@bagarrosphere.fr

@rikefranke I believe that that thoughts should be free, "libres". To produce a person is a hard work. I hope we are past the time the argument was used to justify owning persons. I also believe that parents and jurnalist should be paid. #sharing

2023-09-25 20:07:26

CF 🇺🇦

vve@mastodon.social

@rikefranke I didn't complain. ?

2023-09-25 20:51:29

Salman :emacs: :python:

salman@mstdn.io

@rikefranke Your audience is not Mastodon. Stop overgeneralizing your biased opinion with such a very limited interaction that you had compared to the whole Mastodon.

The reason might be that the people in your audience on Mastodon are not those who pay for subscription-based news websites. Get to know them instead of blaming them.

2023-10-09 13:15:43

abolitionniste ??

abolitionniste@bagarrosphere.fr

I believe that that thoughts should be free, "libres". To produce a person is a hard work. I hope we are past the time the argument was used to justify owning persons. I also believe that parents and jurnalist should be paid. #sharing

2024-01-15 00:21:31

Gabriele Pollara

gpollara@med-mastodon.com

@rikefranke oh no, only just found your account and wanted to follow your work, but doing so just as you're leaving! Sorry to hear.

In general, I agree that people should keep many grumbles to themselves. If not happy with someone content, just politely and quietly unfollow.

2024-01-15 00:31:19

Jody

jodmentum@mastodon.social

@rikefranke are you able to see if people click through and read your linked articles on the other platforms?