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Fri, 23 Oct 2020 22:18:22 +0200
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muesli
fribbledom@mastodon.social
youtube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from the RIAA:
https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2020/10/2020-10-23-RIAA.md
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Fri, 23 Oct 2020 22:19:24 +0200
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Courtneyyyyyy on tour!
miasmicfungus@mastodon.esmevane.com
@fribbledom
what with this twitch stuff lately also, the RIAA seems to have been having a proper temper tantrum this week.
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Fri, 23 Oct 2020 22:21:11 +0200
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Seize the means of computation
brandon@fosstodon.org
@fribbledom
what a buncha looooosers
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Fri, 23 Oct 2020 22:21:35 +0200
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Ben Fiedler
bfiedler@mastodon.3fx.ch
@fribbledom
Big oof. Fortunately the source is still distributed in the Debian-based systems at least: You can get them using `apt source youtube-dl` on any machine with the Debian/Ubuntu/whatever source repositories enabled.
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Fri, 23 Oct 2020 22:23:26 +0200
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Moritz
momar@layer8.space
@fribbledom
The latest version can still be downloaded through PIP though :)
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Fri, 23 Oct 2020 22:23:53 +0200
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Scrith
https://mas.to/@Scrith
@fribbledom
What? Nooo
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Fri, 23 Oct 2020 22:26:06 +0200
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@fribbledom
damn this sucks
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Fri, 23 Oct 2020 22:30:31 +0200
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🤯Matera the Mad🤯
matera@mastodon.sdf.org
@fribbledom
HA! I'd like to see them try to stop screen capturing.
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Fri, 23 Oct 2020 22:33:44 +0200
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David Negreira
https://mastodon.otherreality.net/@dnegreira
@fribbledom
Time to rollout Peertube.
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Fri, 23 Oct 2020 22:34:24 +0200
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Mister Monster
https://firebird.zone/users/mistermonster
@gudenau
Let RIAA take it to court where MS will handily win.
@fribbledom
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Fri, 23 Oct 2020 22:39:38 +0200
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muesli
fribbledom@mastodon.social
@mistermonster
Sadly you have to appeal each case individually. If you start ignoring DMCA takedown requests entirely they're leaving the safety harbor it provides them and that would open the flood gates for thousands of legal battles - not just one.
@gudenau
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Fri, 23 Oct 2020 22:41:59 +0200
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GoatsLive
GoatsLive@mastodon.social
@fribbledom
That's just dumb, but not unexpected. I use that gem a lot! I guess they'll next go after all the Firefox YT Download add-ons
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Fri, 23 Oct 2020 22:42:42 +0200
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Chris
toxision@mastodon.social
@fribbledom
Whaaaaat!?! They wanna take away fun from us? No way!
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Fri, 23 Oct 2020 22:43:32 +0200
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Umbran Sand Witch
https://witches.live/@bitches
@fribbledom
it's stuff like this that makes me excited that the love affair with silicon valley monopoly culture is over. It would be interesting if the RIAA was also sued out of existence for being the cartel that it is
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Fri, 23 Oct 2020 23:00:40 +0200
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Flaky
https://nulled.red/users/Flaky
@fribbledom
Just saw. Still up on PyPI though, and no doubt more resilient git repos are gonna have it soon.
The RIAA's gonna play a long-ass game of whack-a-mole and I don't feel sorry for them.
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Fri, 23 Oct 2020 23:48:17 +0200
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Diane
alienghic@octodon.social
@fribbledom
Booo.
Death to America (or at least American copyright law)
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Sat, 24 Oct 2020 00:22:09 +0200
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Boud
boud@framapiaf.org
@fribbledom
The youtube-dl licence is the Unlicense, and the DMCA statement gives no claim or evidence of copyright violation by the code. It only talks about the intended use of the code.
Prior to Github being bought by
#GAFAM
, the Github owners and community might have resisted. With Microsoft in control, there's probably no point.
#QuitGithubNow
Youtube-dl will continue to thrive in the free world, in GNU/Linux:
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/youtube-dl
And
#QuitYoutubeNow
too.
https://switching.software
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Sat, 24 Oct 2020 00:25:36 +0200
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James Maynard Gelinas
https://mastodon.social/@maynard
@fribbledom
This really sucks. youtube-dl may have infringing uses, but it's also necessary for all sorts of noninfringing uses too.
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Sat, 24 Oct 2020 00:25:50 +0200
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muesli
fribbledom@mastodon.social
@boud
I'm sorry, but no: GitHub never resisted and always played by the DMCA rules. All their DMCA takedowns are publicly available here:
https://github.com/github/dmca/
As you can see the history goes back all the way to 2011.
Without that safety net there probably wouldn't be a GitHub today as they would have been sued into oblivion 9 years ago.
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Sat, 24 Oct 2020 00:28:38 +0200
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jazzyeagle
https://x0r.be/@jazzyeagle
@fribbledom
I have to say I'm surprised. Not that the RIAA took this action, rather that it took them this long to take the action.
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Sat, 24 Oct 2020 01:48:36 +0200
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Nemethon
nemethon@hub.netzgemeinde.eu
In the end they lose anyway. Because all these content providers need viewers. If at some point the youtube stuff annoys me too much and adblocker and downloader no longer work, I can live without youtube.
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Sat, 24 Oct 2020 11:23:53 +0200
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Mr. Teatime
Mr_Teatime@social.tchncs.de
@fribbledom
Well, there's other places to host the code, and I'm sure there's enough copies of the source about.
However... they're likely to go after those other places, too, and after package hosters ... wouldn't it be nice if there were some of those who don't need to care about the DMCA?
Singing:
Deeee Emmmm Cee-yay!
It's fun to live with the
Deeee Emmmm Cee-yay!
It's a pain in the butt
It is pretty kaputt
But the record companies think it's good!
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Sat, 24 Oct 2020 11:28:47 +0200
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Mr. Teatime
Mr_Teatime@social.tchncs.de
@nemethon
That's all true, but what proportion of potential youtube viewers even knows about youtube-dl, let alone uses it regularly?
I suspect the RIAA too so long because they weren't so concerned -- and there's a good chance it or other software like it will always stay a niche thing.
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Sat, 24 Oct 2020 11:34:09 +0200
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utzer [Friendica]
utzer@social.yl.ms
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Mr_Teatime
Debian got it in there git as well, so yes we have enough alternatives I guess.
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Sun, 25 Oct 2020 12:57:01 +0100
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Nemethon
nemethon@hub.netzgemeinde.eu
They already provide a new link for download. Installed it now on every computer in my friends list, just for the fun to spread it. ;)
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