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Mentioned-only notes on Mastodon have no markup
Mon, 07 Oct 2024 20:46:41 +0200
zuletzt bearbeitet: Mon, 07 Oct 2024 21:03:58 +0200
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julian
julian@community.nodebb.org
TIL that when you send Mastodon a mentioned-only note, all HTML tags are stripped.
Just...
whyyyyyy....
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Mon, 07 Oct 2024 20:53:21 +0200
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Kari'boka
kariboka@social.harpia.red
@julian
welcome to hell hahahahaha
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Mon, 07 Oct 2024 20:53:28 +0200
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BeAware :fediverse:
BeAware@social.beaware.live
@julian
tbh, I question most of the decisions the dev team makes. Some are just absolutely mindboggling.
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Mon, 07 Oct 2024 20:54:46 +0200
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Kari'boka
kariboka@social.harpia.red
@BeAware
@julian
it is really a pitty that
#mastodon
became the face of the
#fediverse
. Here in
#Brazil
it ruined every chance to become a thing, that's why everybody migrated to
#bluesky
.
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Mon, 07 Oct 2024 20:58:54 +0200
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BeAware :fediverse:
BeAware@social.beaware.live
https://beaware-mastodon.s3.us-east-005.backblazeb2.com/beaware-mastodon/media_attachments/files/113/267/669/179/679/532/original/477cff77906a0516.mp4
@kariboka
@julian
agreed.
I've even directly asked the dev team for an automated reporting system for specific keywords like regex, but was flat out told that it wasn't gonna happen.
Then right before the Brazil thing happened, the biggest complaint on Fediverse was moderation issues.
Gif of Jackie Chan with his hands hovering above his head like his brain is hurting and a very confused look on his face
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Mon, 07 Oct 2024 21:02:58 +0200
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Kari'boka
kariboka@social.harpia.red
@BeAware
@julian
We had to advertise everything ourselves because mastodon didn't even had accepted (for 2 years) Brazilian instances in the join mastodon page.
Only now (last week) they've added 2.
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Mon, 07 Oct 2024 21:03:47 +0200
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julian
julian@community.nodebb.org
@kariboka@social.harpia.red
@beaware@social.beaware.live
Missed opportunity.
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Mon, 07 Oct 2024 22:55:58 +0200
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Mike Macgirvin ?️
mikedev@fediversity.site
My guess is this has something to do with their foray into E2EE several years back that never made it to release (as far as I can tell). The thing about E2EE is that all it takes is one hyperlink to leak the fact that this message contains that particular hyperlink and you can see the encrypted post distribution by monitoring that link endpoint. They probably scrubbed these as a security measure, which is a reasonable thing to do. It's just kind of silly, because the fact that everybody is using UTF-8 in E2EE messages should be much more concerning.
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Tue, 08 Oct 2024 10:48:27 +0200
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Jupiter Rowland
jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu
Because Mastodon's HTML "sanitiser" "sanitises" away almost all HTML. Because HTML rendering isn't Twitter-style, purist, old-school, original-gangsta microblogging. The Mastodon devs staunchly refuse to implement sensible HTML rendering for this very reason.
There are only few exceptions. Bold type, italics, bullet-point lists (numbered lists are converted) etc. And even these have only been implemented since Mastodon 4. The entire first Twitter migration wave and large parts of the second one landed in a seemingly plain-text-only Fediverse.
But quotes of any and all kinds are still "sanitised" away.
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Wed, 09 Oct 2024 20:30:40 +0200
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dariusk
dariusk@community.nodebb.org
@julian
What's a "mentioned-only" note? Like can you paste in the JSON here? just curious
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Wed, 09 Oct 2024 20:38:48 +0200
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julian
julian@community.nodebb.org
@dariusk
the Direct Messages section from
@crepels@mastodon.social
's fundamentals has a good breakdown actually!
https://seb.jambor.dev/posts/understanding-activitypub/
Basically mentioned only means that only those users are addressed... vs. unlisted/followers-only which includes the public and follower collections.
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Wed, 09 Oct 2024 21:42:03 +0200
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Mike Macgirvin ?️
mikedev@fediversity.site
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julian
Just so there are no misunderstandings, these delivery/privacy modes and rules are all (flawed) Mastodon constructs and have no basis in ActivityPub or ActivityStreams. Other fediverse software may or may not honour these modes; which lean heavily on mentions or lack of mentions and whether or not a particular address is in the to field or the cc field.
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Wed, 09 Oct 2024 21:49:54 +0200
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julian
julian@community.nodebb.org
@mikedev@fediversity.site
tell me about it. Don't get me started on how mentions are abused as a form of addressing.
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