Random thoughts

Sat, 22 Apr 2023 04:04:01 +0200

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amal schrieb den folgenden Beitrag Sat, 22 Apr 2023 04:04:00 +0200

Random thoughts

"The magic in this scenario comes from the fact that Roberto never logged in to Jaquelina's website. Instead, he had to login only once using his password on his own website at roberto.net. When Roberto visits jaquelina.org, her hub seamlessly authenticates him by remotely querying his server in the background. "

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random thoughts and almost notes to myself - I may be grossly wrong and if others share their thoughts in forum spirit, it would be great - I think the above paradigm is being changed by nostr with no websites to deal with at all - I just have my pub & priv key (name/password) and use a client to get texts or pics from persons I want - no one is tied to any website. Personally I like the web to web, and not "appified" as it is now rather slavishly by millions, and nostr somewhat does not fit my ideals - but maybe like in scenarios like whatsapp/signal or an email client - websites do not matter, it is just the number or id (my key or whatever like my phone number) and numbers of persons interesting in my phone book. Some questions though : where is the pub/priv key stored? in some central server? the clients? where? is nostr an island or it "federates" well with others? Is it one more / yet another protocol in the list of 15 or so fediverse protocols or something different with smell of bitcoin (though different technology) ... If Streams have auto-clone (list of servers to choose) will it be equivalent to relays in nostr? How does Zot and Nomad and Nostr differ in bullet points for the granny-next-door?

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Sun, 23 Apr 2023 11:32:41 +0200

This sounds similar to 'solid' ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_(web_decentralization_project)), but is too little, too late. AMGAF are too big now and have so much power, data.

Mon, 24 Apr 2023 00:53:16 +0200

Jupiter Rowland

jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu

Keep one thing in mind:

Nostr is from 2023 when smartphones are the #1 digital end users' devices. Look around the Fediverse. Many more people access it through dedicated mobile apps than through generic Web browsers on desktop computers.

Hubzilla is from 2012 and a fork of Friendica from 2010. Back then, the desktop computer and the laptop still ruled digital platforms. So it's natural that they were designed for desktop Web browsers first and foremost.

The same applies to (streams) which is a fork of Roadhouse which, I think, is a fork of Redmatrix after it had become an experimental platform for the advancement of Zot, thus being a kind of fork of Zap which, in turn, is a straight fork of Hubzilla.

Tue, 25 Apr 2023 09:23:14 +0200

Rogue Runner

cisco@inlakech.site

There is room for everybody, even the elephant in the room. That's the beauty of encrypted public or private decentralization.

The challenge is in the implementation of different protocols working together to make it all seem seamless, so it just works as it was meant to originally. And Nostr has a good lead with their NIP's protocol that also supports a seamless integration of the decentralized internet economy. Which is why they are attracting so much momentum... monetization has never been so easy with the NIP protocol.