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2024-03-10 10:04:15

Jupiter Rowland

jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu

Fediverse Things to know about Hubzilla

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2024-03-10 10:04:40

Jupiter Rowland

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2024-03-10 11:42:42

Nik | Klampfradler 🎸🚲

nik@toot.teckids.org

Hubzilla doesn't have Mastodon's CW field; CW: Fediverse meta, non-Mastodon Fediverse meta, CW meta

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2024-03-10 11:45:19

Nik | Klampfradler 🎸🚲

nik@toot.teckids.org

Hubzilla doesn't have Mastodon's CW field; CW: Fediverse meta, non-Mastodon Fediverse meta, CW meta

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2024-03-10 12:49:44

Jupiter Rowland

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2024-03-10 12:53:25

Nik | Klampfradler 🎸🚲

nik@toot.teckids.org

@jupiter_rowland Ah, sure, I confused subject and summary.

But no matter what, it's not intended for CWs, we still need a standard for that specifically.

2024-03-10 13:08:28

Jupiter Rowland

jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu

@Nik | Klampfradler ?? If you ask experienced users of Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams), they'd prefer doing away with poster-issued CWs altogether.

For one, they force CWs upon everyone, including people who don't need that particular CW. Besides, they leave sensitive people fully at the mercy of the posters and their willingness to write CWs.

Instead, automated, individually-generated, reader-side CWs based on keyword lists should become the new standard. On Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams), this feature is called "NSFW". It has been available since Friendica's earliest days, and Friendica is almost six years older than Mastodon.

Also, Mastodon itself has been able to generate reader-side CWs using filters since the 4.0 update last year. It just takes more awareness on the users' side that filters exist and what filters can do plus one-click or two-click CW filter creation for those who don't even know that Mastodon has filters in the first place, and that has to be implemented in all mobile apps as well.

It's actually dead-simple, and it doesn't require any W3C ActivityPub standardisation because it doesn't need a dedicated field. It uses keywords or hashtags or other strings or substrings found in the post body.

For example, you have "NSFW" in the word list of your NSFW app on Friendica/Hubzilla/(streams) (you do have it by default) or in the word list of a Mastodon filter. A post contains these four letters, "NSFW". Bam, post automatically hidden behind a CW. And Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams) even tell you that it's "NSFW" that was found and triggered the CW creation.

Of course, awareness is necessary because posters still do have to support this in their posts by adding keywords or hashtags that trigger the creation of such CWs. But that's no more difficult than writing a current Mastodon-style CW. In fact, you don't even have to jump to the CW field. And Friendica users can have sensitive stuff hidden behind automatically generated CWs even if they don't know the [abstract][/abstract] tags.

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #CW #CWs #ContentWarning #ContentWarnings #CWMeta #ContentWarningMeta

2024-03-10 13:11:14

Nik | Klampfradler 🎸🚲

nik@toot.teckids.org

@jupiter_rowland

Interesting. So using hashtags might be a better way to help readers avoid harmful content, because they can filter on them?

2024-03-10 13:19:16

*_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

@Nik | Klampfradler ?? That's what i do on Hubzilla - edit: i don't think it is a sufficient system though, if people need a CW field to be more concise on their "warning", then AP should have one for this.

2024-03-10 14:15:24

Jupiter Rowland

jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu